QUESTION: You said that humans were all given the same amount of time. Does that mean that time is different to each individual spirit?
ANSWER: What I mean is: Let us say you have an hour. An hour will remain an hour, regardless of how it appears to you. This is true whether it is pleasant or unpleasant. You can still measure it and it still remains objectively an hour. Your own impression, what you think and feel during that time, is subjective and has no bearing on the objective hour that has passed. Now, in the spirit world it is exactly the opposite. Objectivity is the validity of the spiritual attitude; everything else, every measurement or any other value, is subjective. Is that clear? (Yes, thank you very much)
QUESTION: I find it very hard to understand that which concerns meditation and prayer in depth. If you have approached a problem already, how can you approach it on a deeper level?
ANSWER: The approach on a deeper level of the same old problem happens automatically as you go on working. But when you have uncovered it, then you have to think, meditate, and pray with these new findings all over again. Whether you discover the same trends that you were aware of, or partly aware of, or whether you discover some completely new reactions and feelings, you have to approach these findings with a spirit of newness, or a new surge, so to say, with a new outlook and a new feeling, where you vibrate in the experience of this realization. And then you have to think about it; pray with the new material in order to assimilate it properly; pray that you will be able to integrate it with your personality, so that the latter will become well-rounded. Such new findings usually do not fit into the mental picture a person has made of him or herself. It stands out just like a sore point. In order that these distorted emotions become whole and healthy, one has to utilize these findings in thinking about them in the way I explained in this lecture.
QUESTION: You wanted to talk tonight about the problem of desirelessness and desire versus renunciation.
ANSWER: On a previous occasion I said that desirelessness is a word that can be very easily misunderstood and misinterpreted, especially if a person happens to have an image in which he is afraid to live, afraid to feel, and afraid to love. The outer intellectual knowledge he may gain through spiritual teachings may be an echo for this very image and may be used by him as a rationalization and justification, something the subconscious is constantly on the lookout for. With the knowledge you have gained in the meantime, you will now understand better why I said at the time that desirelessness has to be approached carefully, otherwise it will do more harm than good. A person with an image as cited here is very much afraid to face the world, to face his feelings, and to face the unavoidable disappointments, so that he withdraws and uses the term of desirelessness as a camouflage and to fit his image. This is a very common phenomenon. Only he who has no such fear can understand desirelessness and renunciation in its true meaning and not in its distorted one. Wherever there is such an image -- and many, many people have this to a greater or lesser degree -- the only way you can reach true and genuine desirelessness is to face your fear of life and love. To risk and bear the hurts of it first, rather than to try to forcefully prevent yourself from going through this necessary stage of development is important. Only after having tasted voluntarily the hurts connected with desire will you grow out of it. You cannot do it by going around it, my friends. You cannot force yourself into a state you have not yet attained; this would amount to a lie and even to cheating. As long as you still have desires, you have to acknowledge this and go through them in order to honestly grow out of them. Only after you have gone through that, gradually, in the organic growth that spiritual development always is, will the hurts become less, not because you fear and avoid them because you are unwilling to face them. That can be the only way renunciation and desirelessness can be obtained without error and self-deception. And only each individual personality can be the judge of how useful it is at the present time to meditate about desirelessness. Only if and when you are completely fearless of hurts and disappointments is the time ripe, my dear ones, and not before then. If you have forced yourself into a state of resignation, you have chosen with the unconscious motive of escaping that which you fear. This is the only valid procedure there is, namely accepting your state of still having desires and accepting their price. This will be different from the desires of a person who has no spiritual aims. The latter will let his selfwill push ahead and will be controlled by his desires, he will revolt and rebel against everything and everyone who stands in his way of having his desires gratified. But you who are on this path can evaluate these currents, viewing them from a distance and controlling them in consciousness, neither giving vent to all of them nor suppressing their existence. If you listen within yourself and interpret your feelings, you will be able to see where your selfwill, where your pride, and where your ego claims gratifications that your higher self deems wrong. He who knows that the purpose of life is not the gratification of selfwill, or that its sole purpose is not happiness, but that it is given to you to learn both from happiness and from unhappiness, will not give in to the desires of the lower self. If he cannot help it at times, he will learn an additional lesson from that. Only he who does not escape unhappiness can achieve true desirelessness, perhaps only at a much later period. So therein lies the answer, my friends. And with these words I hope you will not use the idea of desirelessness and renunciation to rationalize away your inner fears of life, of love, and of being hurt. Is that clear? (Yes, I will bring it up in the Bhagavad Gita at several points.)
QUESTION: The next problem is selfishness in prayer.
ANSWER: I have also discussed this on various occasions, but I will do so again, perhaps with a slightly different slant, my friends. I know there are many people who are afraid that when they pray this is merely selfishness. Here I can only say, my friends, that it depends very much on how you pray and what your motive is. You cannot say about anything that it is either selfish or not. Unless it concerns crass acts, in all desires and attitudes it is your motive that counts, and it always depends on the how. The answer to this is really very simple. If you pray for things because you want them and because it is pleasant, and that is all there is to it, then of course it is a selfish prayer. Apart from that, it will do no good at all. For only a spiritual force coming out of your soul will have an effect. Such prayer indicates a misunderstanding of life, and is therefore an untruth, even though you do not commit a deliberate lie. Nevertheless an untrue thought, innocent and in good faith as it may be, cannot meet with the true forces of the Cosmos. Like attracts like, and this law cannot be changed. One of the first things you learn on this path is to ask yourself about your own motives why you desire a certain thing; that you ask yourself the "why" of certain emotional reactions of yours, and if you cannot give yourself the answer, it is a good beginning to pray for the will to recognize yourself fearlessly and truthfully. This cannot be construed as selfishness. Thus you will pray that your motives will become purified. Furthermore, there is certainly nothing selfish if you wish only good for other creatures, and if you can bring yourself to pray for those who have harmed you -- and meant it -- that in itself is a purification. And if you pray for strength and understanding in order to be able to overcome your own cowardice in order to face yourself and in order to overcome your resistance to develop yourself, there is nothing selfish in that. If the doubt exists in you that the unavoidable happiness that results out of purification -- after a certain point is reached -- is in itself a selfish act, then it would seem that it is a higher aim to remain unpurified so as to be unhappy, because this would mean selflessness. In this connection, you must understand that God's laws work in this way: Only he who is happy can give happiness to others. I do not mean a cheap and easily obtainable happiness, but the real thing that comes only by hard labor and that no one can take away from you. You will never see an unhappy person who can truly give happiness to others. That is impossible. He may do a certain good deed, a single unselfish act, but it cannot possibly make another person happy. Therefore, if you are afraid of selfishness because happiness is attained by your purification and development -- and this should be your main prayer, apart from praying for others -- consider this happiness as a byproduct, as a means to an end, and not as the end itself. Even if selfishness, namely the desire to become happy, enters a little bit at the beginning of your upward climb, recognize this, but do not mind it too much. This selfish motive is not as pure, and you are still imperfect. This selfish motive is not as pure as the one stated here, namely the happiness that should be only a byproduct, a means to an end, but it is certainly a step forward in the realization of truth. Only by purifying yourself can you become happy, while the person who has a lower degree of consciousness believes that happiness results out of giving in to all the desires coming out of the lower nature. If you are not free from selfishness -- and scarcely a human being is -- it is certainly healthier to see this clearly, instead of pushing and forcing it away; in that way it will only hide in your soul and cause you more harm than the clear and courageous recognition of its existence. Know that the aim is a higher one, but know that you are emotionally not there yet. Also recognize that secluded happiness is impossible. The separating wall must fall off, and that is what all of you are afraid of: you feel endangered by it. You do not realize that in desiring to keep your separating wall, you defeat your own purpose and you contradict illogically your own desire to develop that which exists just as strongly in spite of your fear of it. You all desire happiness and you all desire to give happiness, yet you cannot achieve either one of them without losing your separateness. And how do you lose your separateness? You do this by doing the very thing that seems hardest to you. Perhaps it is giving up your pride, going through your apparent shame. When you approach this problem in this way, you will realize that in prayer of this kind there is certainly nothing selfish. For God wants you to be happy. It is a long tradition of misunderstanding, an often unpronounced conception, that to be Godly means to be unhappy and severe. This image is engraved in mankind on the whole. This is supposed to be martyrdom. No, my friends, it is not so. So do not feel guilty if you also become happy. That certainly does not mean that you should pray for happiness. What you should pray for is the strength and the ability to overcome and remove the obstacles you have placed between yourself and happiness. This removal must mean to go through the self-inflicted unhappiness, created by error and ignorance, not by shirking it; but the outcome at the end of the tunnel must be the clear light of peace, harmony, beauty, and joy that must be yours regardless of other people's actions and deeds. This is the spirit you should have when you pray.
QUESTION: May I ask why it is so difficult to start praying at all?
ANSWER: You all know that your development does not proceed upwards along a steady line or, so to say, "downward." It fluctuates. It goes up and down in spirals. And sometimes, while you are on a downward curve, you do not realize that this downward curve is a step higher than the last upward curve you were on. Although the last upward curve was, on the whole, lower than the present downward curve, every upward curve feels better. You felt an elation and a liberation that you do not feel on the downward curve which you have worked yourself up to now. Whenever you are on a downward curve, you encounter conflicts and problems and contradictions that you have not yet solved. They disquiet you, they make you unrestful and fearful, until you have laboriously worked them out and understood them, until you have fitted them into the whole picture as fast as this is available to you now. When this is done, the upward curve sets in again, when you enjoy the clear air of a little further gained truth. But when the downward curve comes again, you must delve into the darkness of your own confusion and error, and that cuts you off from the Divine Stream. You may over-simplify this by saying: "Things are depressing, I experience unpleasant things, and that is why I am cut off from the Divine Flow." You are right, only it is a half-truth, and that is always dangerous. The unpleasant things you are experiencing are but a reflection and a necessary effect of the cause you have within yourself and that waits to be dug out. And that is why in such times of being on the downward curve -- this may vary in length according to the personality and the inner problems to be solved -- the flow is cut off. You are surrounded again by the strong impressions of the world of manifestation. You cannot penetrate any more into the feeling of reality you have tasted at other times. And it is necessary; it demands a battle on your part to attain victory again. Every victory means a new upward curve. It is quite natural that in such periods of temporary darkness you cannot feel God's absolute truth, that you do not vibrate with it. This cannot be forced by will. But what you can and should do in these periods is to think clearly and reasonably about your findings in the light of what you now know, although temporarily this knowledge sits only in your brain. And you have to wait until you become filled with this knowledge again.
The Guide
by Eva Pierrakos
November, 1958
Copyright 1958 by Eva Broch